Audi and VW, Please Recall Cars Between 1996 – 2001 and Replace the Defective ABS Control Units! (Please support our cause by adding your story in the comments below)
The Problem:
Is your Audi showing a solid ABS failure light and a flashing brake failure light? Was your Audi built between the year 1996 – 2001? Then the odds are you got one of the bad Bosch ABS control units that fails. And according to the manufacturer you are screwed to the tune of $1,500 - $1,700.
A large number of people on the Internet have documented this same problem in Audis and VWs (which have a lot of common parts). Ironically, Internet posts claim that some of the VWs (e.g. 2001 Jetta GLX) have been recalled for this problem, but not the Audi. I guess the thinking is that the Audi owners can afford the $1,700 to repair the ABS.
My Story (please post your story as a comment below):
I drive a 2001 Audi A4. I really like the car, but my experience with the ABS light problem has really soured me on the company. At 54,000 miles (yes just out of warranty on miles and about 8 months on time), my yellow ABS light went on, it beeped and the red brake light started flashing.
Since it was out of warranty, I figured why pay the premium to get it fixed at my local dealership (Rector Motors) AND put up with their arrogant attitude. So I went to a local mechanic who specializes in German cars.
He plugged it into the computer and immediately informed me that it was the ABS control unit and there was nothing he could do. It could only be repaired by the dealer. He also told me that the ABS control unit should definitely not go out at my mileage. He told me that he has a number of customers who have had similar problems, because they had problems with the ABS control units between 1996 and 2001. He said that a large number of mechanics online had documented the same problem. Of course, he charged me nothing for this diagnosis.
He advised me to take the car to my local Audi dealer and explain that it shouldn’t fail like this especially at 54,000 miles, and demand that they pay for it. So I went to Rector Motors (or as I call them Rectal Motors) and asked them whether there was a recall and what they could do for me. There answer was no recall and it would cost about $1,700 to replace the ABS control unit.
So I called Audi USA. I explained that I needed an ABS control unit and that I was aware that it was a common problem for cars in those years. They started a case to look into what they could do to help. I told them the make, model, year, mileage, everything. They then called me back and informed me that in order to evaluate the case, they needed a diagnosis from a certified Audi dealer, even though I had informed them what the problem was already from an Audi mechanic.
So I took the car to Rector Motors. They never mentioned any fee. I called two times and left messages, but they never called back. I went in and talked to the service rep. (Paul) that afternoon, but it still wasn’t ready. Again, there was no mention of any diagnosis fee. Then I went to pick up the car and was informed that there was a $175 fee to tell me what I already knew, it is the ABS control unit.
I told them that it was ridiculous to charge me a fee, when (a) they never mentioned the fee; (b) they merely told me what I already knew; (c) Audi USA told me to go there for the diagnosis. Then they got rude. “How did you diagnose the car yourself, did you read it on a website?” No, a mechanic told me what it was. I told them that I didn’t think I should pay for it and they informed me that I was responsible for my car and if I didn’t pay it I wasn’t getting the car back. They were very rude, and I will never set foot in their business again.
So, my last hope was Audi USA. I called back and alerted them to the reaffirmed diagnosis. They called me back and said: “We’re sorry it is out of the warranty period and there is nothing we can do about it.” I said fine then just pay me the $175 for the diagnosis fee, and detailed my experience. They basically told me tough luck.
So Audi America, I told you what the problem was and told you the age and mileage of the car, why didn’t you simply tell me UPFRONT that it was too far out of the warranty period, instead of wasting my time and $175? Why make me jump through hoops and then tell me the inevitable bad news?
More importantly, if the ABS control unit is such a problem WHY HAVEN’T YOU RECALLED THE AUDIS AND FIXED THE ABS CONTROL UNITS?
After searching the Internet, it appears that this is a common problem in both Audis and VWs during this band of years. According to some websites, there has been a recall for some VWs, but not for Audis. I guess they figure Audi owners can afford the $1,700.
In fact the problem is so common there is a cottage industry of gray market parts and descriptions of how to repair the ABS control unit. I would actually be happy just turning off the flashing lights and beeping. I rarely drive in the snow, but I know how to do it, so I don’t need ABS. I just want the lights and the damn beeping to stop.
A large number of failures of the ABS Control unit in Audi and VW cars between 1996 – 2001 cars indicates to me that the part of faulty. Local mechanics cannot touch the ABS, in fact, the car won’t even let their computers talk to it. But my mechanic told me that he has a number of people driving around with faulty ABS control units and that it is “a real problem with cars from 1996 – 2001”.
Links to Other ABS Failure Posts on the Internet:
ABS Failures between 1996 – 2001 in Audi A4/A6
http://www.carclinicmagazine.com/audi_a4___a6_1996_-_2001___vw_.html
http://www.bba-reman.com/content.aspx?content=audi_a4_amp_a6_1996_2001_and_vw_passat_1996_2001_abs_pumps_commonly_failing
http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?messageID=112619
Several pages of threads about the VW ABS problems during the same timeframe (note: VW and Audi share common parts)
http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2447&tstart=0
http://www.audi-forums.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1068.html
http://www.houseofthud.com/cartech/abspump/ABSProcedure.html
Some people are pulling their ABS Pump and getting it replaced. The fact that there is a whole cottage industry set-up to repair these things indicates to me that there is a problem here (again 1996 and later VWs, coincidence, I think not):
http://www.modulemaster.com/vwabsbsrepair.html
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000602.html (detailed info on the cars affected…sound like a recall is warranted?)
Another ABS problem post…
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000286.html
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000110.html
Not a recall but a “warranty extension” for the VW ABS, same as the one used in the Audi…is there an Audi warranty extension??
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000234.html
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000350.html
Excellent:
A few pages of ABS light complaints for the A4: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?ed_searchResults@288.ai8hdfWHDu8.0@.eeca719!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.eeca719%20abs&count=20
A few comments about 2001 A6 Models: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?ed_searchResults@742.tiSIdl68Din.1@.ef0c3ff!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ef0c3ff%20abs&count=20
A Few Pages about VW ABS Failures:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?ed_searchResults@265.L1FDdxMhDsr.1@.ef0feec!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ef0feec%20abs&count=20
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?ed_searchResults@60.IibddphFDxw.0@.ee994fa!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ee994fa%20abs&count=20
A recall on VW ABS units from 2000 – 2001: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@60.IibddphFDxw.1@.ee994fa/2053!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ee994fa%20abs
Why did VW recall their cars for ABS problems, but Audi hasn’t, even though they share parts? Is it because Audi thinks that their owners are rich enough and stupid enough to simply take it?
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/67-int/2001/volkswagen/jetta/glx/
1. Please share your experiences with your ABS control unit in the comments below. Maybe if we get enough people this will spur a recall to fix these defective parts.
2. And if you know anyone who owns a 1996-2001 Audi or VW send them the link to this page so they can find out about this problem.
3. If you find any other good links on the Internet, please add them as well.
Thanks…
229 Comments:
My 2000 Audi S4 developed this same problem two weeks ago. I verified it with a friends VAG-COM. I have removed the ABS controller and sent the unit to Modulemaster for repair. I am now waiting for it's return.
This problem appears to be so common that there are those who have had it, and those that will have it... Because it is so common, and it affects a basic safety itme like brakes, it really should be a recall. I'm surprised to hear that VW has a recall, and Audi does not... perhaps they use slightly different part numbers for the ABS?
99 A4 owner 75,000 miles and yes I to have the Flashing ABS & Brake light. Payed Audi 170 dollars to replace my brake sensor that said that it was tat and the ABS control Module and the control module will cost me 700 plus labor.
UnHappy with my Audi dealer ship..
I own a 99 A4 and have recently had the ABS lights on and brake light flashing. It cost me $95.00 to find out it was the control module at a replacement cost of $1000.00 I have also developed an airbag light that now stays on, another !1,000 to replace bag and tension harness. I have 117,000 miles. THis ABS light is obviously a problem with this car and we should pull together and get Audi to recall the vehicles in this date range. There are just too many cars with the same problem.Any suggestions how. Maybe threats to contact better business bureau and chamber of commerce and advertising against Audi's. Don't get me wrong I love driving my A4 but this is just too coincedental and it should come to the attention of those responsible at Audi.
Well the more content we put in here and the more we get people to link to this, the more the company will start to take notice. If you have a blog or website include a link to this website using the terms "Audi ABS Recall" and "Audi ABS Light" to increase its rank in search engines, this will start the ball rolling. The more people who post, the more Audi will take notice...I have about 65K miles...
I have a 2002 VW Jetta GLS that has encountered this same problem. In my case, the brakes started chirping (and eventually squealing) while driving when the brakes we not applied. Though I brought the car to VW while it was still under warranty, they claimed they could never find any problem. It was not until the car was 1,400 miles over warranty that they discovered it was the ABS module - which, of course, VW is refusing to replace or cover in any way. Of course, it's a VW, so the repair is only $1,500.
It will be the last VW I purchase.
I have a 1999 Audi A4 2.8Q with 100+K miles, has developed the same problem. ABS and brake warning lights come on and stay on; sometimes will reset other times will not; If car is turned off and has sufficient time to cool down then system resets; Problem occurs after vehicle is up to temperature; looking to replace the part on my own.
My 1999 VW Passat ABS CONTROL MODULE when out at 112000 miles. VW wants $1200 for the parts and $82.00 an hour to put it on. It is a safty problem that VW and Audi need to look into. What does a person need to do, to get them to have a recall on this safty item? To let you guys know VW has gone to a new part number to fix there problem with the bad control module. On my car the old number was 8E0 614 111B the new number is 8EO 614 111F.
the part number is set by the last 6 of your VIN.
i found a sight the will rebuild the ABS CONTROL MODULE for $249.00
http://www.autoecu.com/Products/default.asp
The dealer was going to charge me $700.00 dollar for the ABS control unit (this is just for the electronic section) plus 6 hours of labor @ 105/hr rate. Audi dealers are nothing more than a network of Mafioso bandits, taking advantage of this situation. I had the repair done at my regular shop; part was $499.00, total labor cost was $178.00 installed. The part was on back order which means there was strong demand for the part. The problem is extremely common and Audi can not keep up with supply of the parts. As you explain on this site affects Audi A-4s & A-6s 1996-2001. The issue needs to be reported to the consumer affair folks. This truly a travesty of justice that owners have to pay for this and Audi will not recall the vehicles for this issue.
'99 A4 (70K miles) ABS and Air Bag Prolblem. First the ABS. Called Audi and bitched for two weeks. Also, sent several emails. They paid for the ABS Coltrol Module and I paid $260 labor to have it installed. Would not give me the part so that I could install which I could have done in twenty minutes. Now, starting on the air bag issue. We'll see.
I have had the same problem with my 2002 Passat 1.8t. All of a sudden, the ABS light comes on, beeps 3x and the red brake light starts flashing. My regular mechanic said to take it to the dealer, as there were many codes in the computer. VW service said that they have seen many of these lately, and that the price dropped on the part ($555) and 3 hours labor @ $92. I LOVE my car...I had all of the belt/oil/brake issues addressed before I bought it CPO (used) with 50k. I hope that there is a recall/extension. How can I join in? maestrojbh@comcast.net
I have a 2000 A4 (61K miles) and the ABS controller just went out--the cost to repair was $1200 (Herb Chambers Audi in Burlington, MA). When I asked if this was a common problem, the service tech said no. Yet I've seen many comments on the web. Next step is to call Audi USA and see what they say.
I have a 1998 A4 2.8 with aprox. 130,000 miles and this same problem just happened to me. I know a bit about brakes so I plan on replacing it myself and selling my A4. I love Audis but I just can't afford to keep paying these $1000 shop bills.
I will definitely call and complain because it is BULL SH*t that they won't recall the unit.
1998 Audi Avant 160,000 miles
A beeping flashing nightmare on the streets of Los Angeles. Audi wants $1700 to fix a part I will never use until hell freezes over. RECALL or else.
Kevin
I have the Same problem with a 2002 a4 1.8T at 90k. Got the module replaced and that didn't seem to solve the problem. Mechanic said it also needed a steering angle sensor. costing me about 2500 total. So lame...
DOT Auto Safety Hotline
Office of Defects Investigation
400 7th St., SW
Washington, DC 20590
Toll free: 1-888-327-4236
TTY: 1-800-424-9153 (Toll free)
Fax: 202-366-7882
www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
Reference # 808103983
Dear Mr. Galindo:
Thank you for your e-mail regarding the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) modules in our vehicles, and your concern with our response to what you believe is a faulty part. I appreciate your loyalty to Volkswagen, and I’m happy that you have enjoyed the vehicles you have owned over the years.
I understand you feel we have not acted upon concerns with the ABS modules in our vehicles; however, please know that we do stand behind the quality of our parts and product. If there is a widespread concern with one of our parts, we would issue a recall campaign, and replace the component at no charge to our owners. At the present time, there are no campaigns affecting the ABS module. Feedback from owners such as yourself is of great value to us, and I would like you to know that I have documented your comments for internal review.
As a long-time member of the Volkswagen family, you are important to us. Again, thank you for taking the time to e-mail. If I may be of further assistance regarding this, or any other matter, please don’t hesitate to contact me again by e-mail at www.vw.com, or through our Customer CARE Center at (800) 822-8987. If I am not available, one of my colleagues will be able to assist you.
Sincerely,
Amanda Porter
Ext. 43328
Customer CARE Advocate
Am now experiencing the same issue with my 2002 A4 3.0 Quattro so it is not fixed in this year.
Was quoted $1200 by the dealet in Bellevue WA.
Currently trying to find the part online but even finding the right part number to get the part is proving a bit difficult.
Try to get the mechanic to quote replacing the electronics of the ABS control unit (circuit board) I think mine cost $600 or maybe $700 versus $1,200 for the whole ABS unit.
Same Problem '99 80k mi you mentioned a way to just get rid of the light without actully having to replace the module?.. how do we do that?
I own a Audi A4 1999.5 2.8 Quattro. I guess I don't need to write much, I have the same issue, ABS module failure with ABS/Brake light nag. Audi dealer said 1,100.00. I am exploring the BBA - Reman site and services. Anyone successfully use that company for a replacement? I will note my Audi does drive great, but it is a shame the company doesn't stand by their cars in failure as they do in the selling of them.
p.s. Anyone found a method to disable the flashing lights without module removal?
Unfortunately, I was told that there is no way to disable the blinking ABS brake light or the beeping. It is a safety feature so they don't allow mechanics to disable it (according to my mechanic)
I have a Audi A6 2001 2.8 Q and today I started getting ABS and Brake light blinking together and as I read from this forum it looks like a common issue and the damn thing will cost @ $1800 is really thing which worries me. I dont know whether the recall was done or not. If anyone knows about recall please post or email me on dhirendrams@yahoo.com.
Thanks
Dhiren
My 2000 A6 just started having the same problem as well, was just checking to see what information was availible when I came across your blog.
1999 Audi A6 Quatro,120K miles same problem, Dealer just informed me that parts and labor on the abs modual would be 1620.00 plus I need a brake light switch (just happened to go bad at the same time), another 140.00 parts and labor.
1998 Audi A6 with the dreaded yellow ABS light and the flashing red brake light. Local German mechanic immediately knew what the problem was; he's a small shop owner but has dealt with this problem repeatedly. Looking at $650 for the repair kit plus labor. Have sent my email to Audi c/o about the problem.
Recall website:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/
www.safercar.gov/
There is a module place somewhere near Canton Mass that does this also (similar to module master) still $1-200 bucks though.........
I'll call the Audi links an earlier poster offered.
If anyone does go class action, please contact me.
Nana's car has ~60K on it. Its a garaged 2 owner 1999 A4 tip 1.8T
We've replaced the radiator already.........60K? With Audi specific coolant?
http://www.quattro123.com/AudiA4Radiator.htm
-Scott by BOSTON Sept 2008
S u f f o l k D @ gmail dot com
quattro123.com
My 2000 Audi A6 has also developed the problem of the ABS light along with the brake light flashing and beeping three times. My local mechanic said that it was probably the ABS controller and he would call me with a price quote. The problem is quite annoying and even more annoying reading how much it will cost to fix! How hopeful can we all be for a recall? And how big of a safety issue is? Especially living in Montana...
I have a 2002 Auddi TT. the module went out over a year ago, just a couple of months out of warranty, and with only about 30K miles on the car. Have been quoted $1900 for just the part at the dealer. Not happy... going to try to go after Audi.
yeah screw this!! I have a 2000 Audi S4. It's bull that VW has a reacall for the problem but audi doesn't. Audi and VW are practically the same car. I like the car alot but if it going to have problems like this where it should be a recall and it isn't, then screw that. Im warning everyone i know about Audi and how it won't cover stuff like this. Then im gonna give all the audi dealers a bad rep so nobody wants to buy Audi's anymore. I used to be a huge fan of Audi. Im putting all 3 of my Audi's up for Sale now, and will never buy one again. I used to drive BMW's and they treated their customers what seems to be quite a bit better. I think i'll just go back to BMW. SCREW AUDI. word of mouth is the quickest advertisment. and the word about Audi isn't going to be good.
I have same problem with audi a6 2001. Please post here if you have any info on recall.
Yes yes yes...My 1998 Audi a4 with the same issues flashing brake and abs light....and my old Passat 1999 once again...flashing brake and abs light. I am curious how many people have called Audi with the issue.. We all need to call audi daily and not give up!
I own a 2002 VW Passt 1.8 GLS and about 2 weeks ago, the ABS light and flashing brake light problem started to happen. The local VW dealer immediately identified the problem as a "short" in the ABS Module. He said it could become a safety problem and quoted $1034+taxes to repair. Good car, but the maintenance is killing me. I had to pay over $1200 at 120,000m to replace the timing belt. Now at 127,000m I need to replace the ABS module at another $1000.
How can we get a recall program going as it seems the problem is continuing in 2002 also.
Hello frustrated Audi/VW owners. A friend of mine just received their ABS Module back from a company that refurbishes them and sends back. The whole experience only costed him 150$ and some change. Lights gone ABS functioning, screw Audi! I am sending mine next. Go to Ebay.com, do a search for Audi or VW ABS Module....or google BB REMAN. I will update when I do mine. Good Luck!
(1999.5 Audi A4 2.8L Quattro w/ABS-Brake light flashing)
p.s. My local Audi dealer is useless, and they always demand you give them an excellent review on their satisfaction survey haha.
'99 A6 Avant.. same problem.. flashing abs and brake light.. no abs working.. local shop informed me of a 'repair kit' for $700. I agree, recall this part
Same here with my 2000 VW Jetta GLS. Both the ABS and Brake lights are on. I wish they would have a recall on all of it. But I guess they are trying to find more ways to get money out of us. I am pretty much done with VWs. I havent been happy with my car for a long time.
Add another one to the list: 1999 Audi A4 105k miles.
Add another one to the list: 1999 Audi !4 105k miles.
Me Too 99 A4 1.8T three beeps and the flash.
There goes mine..1999 audi A4 with 115,000 miles. ABS light and flashing brake light with intermittent beeps. Two weeks later my airbag light stays on. I'll never buy an Audi again. Too many outrageously expensive repairs.
2001 Audi A6 Quattro 2.8L I love my car, but I too am receiving the dreaded red light ABS Module Brake System problem. Have we gotten anywhere with the recall effort? I understand VW made the recall, isn't there anyway to reach our Highway Safety Compliance Officers on this one as well, it is 2008 now. I am in the loop for signing a petition if need be. I love my Audi, however, I do feel the coolant tank issue, the 02 sensors and this one are list wanna be's that should be taken a hard look at. Obama made President come on Consumers help out the Audi owner, we are all not rich, some of us save for a good car for years.
And another one bites the dust. 2000 Audi A6 2.7t. Good thing the economy is doing so good...nothing like throughing down that kind of cash.
I have a 1999 Audi A6 Quattro Wagon and love the car but everytime I turn around it needs to have something fixed. The ABS module is the last straw! Now no one will buy it because of the dang flashing light.
I have an 2000 A6 wagon and my abs/brake light just came on. I recently had my brakes replaced. I have noticed that sometimes when braking I have deminished strength. Is this from the ABS?????
Mrs Burns, My understanding is that when you have an ABS failure, the light comes on at startup and you get an annoying beeping sound. Then the light stays on the whole time. So if it is intermittent, I would take it to the people who did your brakes and ask them to check it.
My 2003 Passat 1.8T have had the ABS light on since around 40,000 miles. The warrant had expired when I took to the dealership and they asked me $1200 to replace it.
It is obviously a premature failure and VW must recall this part.
Same ABS problem. 2000 Audi. Started about three years ago just after the warranty expired. Surprised to find out it's such a common problem.
JUST WENT HAD THE SAME DAM PROBLEM WISH I KNEW THIS BEFORE I BOUGHT THE CAR!! AUDI+ABS=TURD!
JUST WENT HAD THE SAME DAM PROBLEM WISH I KNEW THIS BEFORE I BOUGHT THE CAR!! AUDI+ABS=TURD!
Finally had the dealer replace the ABS control module on my 2001 Audi TT Quattro. I lived with the fault code, lit ABS and blinking brake light for two years until the car failed inspection. Before replacing the ABS Module for $1700, the dealer replaced the Steering wheel sensor module for $720. I'm thinking it was only the ABS module that was bad. This is so common it really should be a recall.
Hi, I have a 1999 vw passat with brake light flashing and abs light stays on too. I have around 110,000 miles. Could it be the control module. My dealer says there is no recall on this?Thanks
Based on what you are telling me I would guess it is 99.99% that it is the ABS module. Rector Motors of Burlingame CA charged me a couple of hundred to "verify" this for me, after I told them that is what it was. They did so under the guise of "let us see if it is covered by the warranty". Then after repeating what I had told them (ABS control module) they demanded the cash or I don't get my car back. I refer to them as Rectal Motors now and will never do business with them again.
I have a 2000 VW Passat at 88,000 miles and like all of you, the ABS light has come on and the repair man has told me to replace the ABS control module--a $1200 job. If this problem is happening with so many people, VW should issue a recall or consumers should look into some kind of class action against VW.
This is ruining my impression of an otherwise great car.
Silver Spring, MD
2000 passat 4 motion
82,000 mi.
abs problem
dealer wants $713 to fix
the passat, the car that alwotolyndays needs repair work!
I have the same problem with my Audi 2000 S4 at 120k! Should have kept my Honda...
My 2001 A4 1.8T has this issue. Began around 100k miles.
I was once a strong Audi supporter and actually convinced about 10 friends & family to purchase audi's. Audi's service and handling of failures such as this has really turned me away from Audis.
This is extremely dangerous and the high number of cases is unacceptable without acknowledgement from Audi. Living in the Northeast I've almost been in several severe accidents due to this failure. I'm looking to get a rebuild done, but have had to live with a dead ABS for quite some time now due the high cost of the repair.
During the years I had the car serviced through my local dealership I had to make several return trips due to something they screwed up.
We're in the market for 2 vehicles now, which at one point were to be Audis, but not any more. Not if this is how it's going to be.
2000 Audi A6, only 55k on it, just got the ABS light tonight.
Already paid over $1,000 to fix the window hasps about a year ago which...you'll never believe this...they issued a "warranty extension" for that same part on the VW Passats but NOT the AUDI!
I can't wait for my dealer to try to convince me this is not a "widespread" enough issue for a recall when I tell him exactly what the problem is and how much he is going to charge me to fix it before he even opens the hood.
Good news is that the Audi USA headquarters is about 15 minutes from where I live! I will be going down there to speak with someone.
Has anyone tried the email addresses listed above recently? Are they still active?
I told my dealer exactly what the problem was in advance (because of my research), and he told me that they had to check it to see what the problem was and whether it would be covered. Then they charged me something like $250 to tell me what I already knew. Don't assume that they play fair, service at dealers always get their money or you don't get your car.
I have a 2002 Passat V6. I got the occasional ABS light, traction light turn on with the brake light flashing and 3 beeps. This happened while I was driving at constant speed on the freeway. I called my mechanic, and he said it is most likely the control unit and has been seeing this issue alot. Today I had a different problem while driving with my cruise control on. Only the ABS light and brake light went on...I don't know how many beeps went off, but the brake light kept flashing with the ABS light on. After about a mile, about lights went off and the yellow traction/differential(?) light went on (the one with the exclamation mark with a triangle around it and an arrow circling the triangle). This light stayed on the rest of my journey. I really think VW should recall this. BTW, my water pump broke, and it was under warranty so the dealership replaced it however they made me still pay for the thermostat. They said there is no evidence that these things were related although both broken at the same time. I called VW but just want a sweet customer care letter saying they can't do anything.
I am assuming it is okay to drive the car without damaging anything.
Oops...I forgot to mention. My car has 89K miles on it. Unfortunately I can't get back to my comment to add this information.
I am the original owner of a 97 VW Jetta GLX and am now on my 3rd ABS controller. The car has about 100K miles. The first controller went out at about 50K miles, but unfortunately, my bumper to bumper had expired. I bought a used controller and did the swap myself. Saved a lot of money. Got the replacement at a junk yard for $50 and about 3 hours of labor swapping it out and bleeding the brakes. That one only lasted about 4 years and 50K miles. Today I installed another used controller from a 98 GLX, but after I was all done, this one was defective right off the bat. I think I am going to send my other one off to be "rebuilt" and then swap the controllers when it is returned. It is possible to replace just the controller without unhooking all the brake lines. That saves a HUGE amount of time. As long as you have a reverse TORX-6 socket, you can unscrew the controller off the bottom and swap in a new one. It is crazy that the dealer sells these new for about $750 and they only last 4 or 5 years
I too have a 99 audi A6 it, both: the brake light and the ABS light are on, now the air bag ligh comes on....Quoted $1100 for air bag, $1000 for brake/ABS light. WE NEED TO START A LAW SUIT AGAINST AUDI!!!
MY CARS ABS MODULE WENT OUT -DOWNHILL- ON ICE AND I DAMAGED A WHEEL....THANK GOODNESS I HAD TWO LIGHTS TO PRE-WARN ME THAT I COULD'VE DIED...lol
NOW TOO PAY MORE FOR DAMAGE AND A NEW UNIT.....
HINT-when you buy these cars BRAKE test them about 10 times locking them up; if the ABS light comes on..GOOD LUCKK
MY CARS ABS MODULE WENT OUT -DOWNHILL- ON ICE AND I DAMAGED A WHEEL....THANK GOODNESS I HAD TWO LIGHTS TO PRE-WARN ME THAT I COULD'VE DIED...lol
NOW TOO PAY MORE FOR DAMAGE AND A NEW UNIT.....
HINT-when you buy these cars BRAKE test them about 10 times locking them up; if the ABS light comes on..GOOD LUCKK
My 2000 A6 developed the same problem at about 120k...I took it to my mechanic for fear of driving around with a brake issue, and he told me the ABS controller was bad and said it would cost over $1000 to fix. A one inch piece of black electrical tape, stuck directly over the lights was a cheaper fix for me!
I thought I was the only one with this problem until late one night driving my E350 home I came upon an Audi a6. I pulled into the passing lane, and as I passed, what do you think I saw? That's right, those SAME lights on the dash!!
Shame on Audi for not recalling this obviously flawed part!
I will never buy another one of their cars again!!
I own a 1998 Audi A4 Quattro. I also have a bad ABS control module. Mechanic told me this is a very common problem. I contacted AUDI USA. They called me and said that they do not have enough failures on the books to warrent a recall. I think MANY more people need to contact them and complain. I am seriously thinking of contacting a lawyer to see if there is something that can be done. I.E. a class action.
Face it, Audis suck like no other car on the road today. At this point I'd rather drive a Yugo - at least then I'd get pity.
Only 80K miles on my '02 A6 2.7t and I've already had to replace all 4 brake rotors, the clutch and pressure plate, had the AC drain pipe flood my passenger side floor, and now this ABS controller.
Anyone who buys an Audi is an idiot. Stick to Japanese cars - they're more reliable, and they don't cost you a body part for every repair.
VW should be nuked from orbit - only way to be sure humanity's safe.
Yes not only do I have the airbag light. I also have the abs module that went out, the abs spped control sensor and the timing belt broke at 84,000 miles. I love my car which is a 2000 A4 but I'm really tired of getting the run around when it comes to getting it fixed. The platfroms they use to build the Audi's are great but I'm sick of the subpar components they are adding on. I say we do something! I can't even get my car inspected until I spend around 4 grand!
I just finished replacing the ABS unit on my 1999 A4. There are at least four companies that repair these units on the net. Everyone fails the same way and Audi knows it. The real deal hear is that someone is going tp die because of this. What's needed is a big fat law suit to get Audi off the butts.
I have a 2000 A6 Avant 2.8.. I have a Vag- Com and had the following fault code: 18014 Rough/Road Engine Tourque signal from ABS, Electronic Malfunction. The car Rides like a dream except for the Check Engine light on again for the same problem the 3rd time! I had the ABS control module rebuilt from Auto and Truck Electronics in West Palm Beach Florida. It cleared the problem for about 6 mos. Fortunately they offer a 3 year warranty. I sent it back again and this time instead of taking two days it took almost two weeks. It has not faulted for over a year. Well it looks like I'm sending it off again. Even the rebuild has issues. The company is nice enough though. The unit is not overly difficult to remove and reinstall. If you have a sturdy jack remove the Left front tire and the fender liner and windshield washer reservoir. Remove the two plugs and 6 torx screws and pull the unit off. Wrap a couple of baggies over the plugs and you can still drive the car minus ABS brakes. There are a few websites that give you good pictorial details on the process.
My 2000 audi a4 have same problems. ABS. Brake light.
1998 A4- 85k miles. Wow I just went online to check the price that I was given by my local mechanic $700 to replace the ABS Module, I had no idea it was such an issue. However as car owners I do not think that all parts are made to last forever!
While you shouldn't expect parts to last forever, there are some powerful arguments in favor of a recall:
1. This is not a moving part, it is a circuit board. These things don't "wear out".
2. It has a MTBF (mean time between failure) that far exceeds comparable "quality" components. You don't see ABS control unit failures at this rate on other cars or on the more modern versions of Audis and VWs.
So, if you want to pay the cost quietly on the belief that all parts wear out, go ahead, be a sucker. But let me ask you, how many times have the following parts worn out for you: steering wheel, speedometer, parking brake...and those have moving parts!
Yes! Audi owners unite! By now we should all know that corporations do not give a $HIT about the actual safety of their customers. They only want revenue streams.
This so clearly should have been a recall, it is preposterous that Audi continues to pretend that there is no problem. If people were dying from this issue, they MIGHT recall it.
My module went out, VAG-COM confirmed. It sucks, and Audi sucks too.
-Former Audi lover, David
I have A6 2.7Q at 54500Miles and ofcourse started getting the same problem a at 54000 miles. Checked with Local firestone and the mechanic had to bang his head with the car to find out there the ABS is fine, the brakes are fine, but the electronic system that reads the signal is out. I read through almost all posts, but dont think there is any recall done on this.
Is there any update?
Regards,
Nitin
I own a 1999 audi a4, i have the same problem with the stupid abs module, beeps 3 times the abs light goes on and the brake light blinks. Usually it goes off after a few minutes but sometimes stays on until the car cools.
I have a neighbor that is a technician in a audi dealer, he told me even without looking or hooking my car into any computer he told me the abs module is damaged, he knows this because it's very common in audis. To change the module will be $500 for parts and he told me to give him $50 for the labor.
After reading all the complains about the abs problem I will be putting my audi for sale very soon.
jayl74@optonline.net
No update that I'm aware of. I'm in the process of selling my audi. I eventually broke down and paid for the repair...annoying
I have a 98 A4 quattro and I have been having the same issue for almost two years because I can't afford the cost to fix it. Especially in Wisconsin winters and my ABS not working, is a disaster waiting to happen.
I own a 2000 A6 2.7T and ABS light on BRAKE flashing 3 beeps. This part needs to be recalled if so many people are having the same issue. 80K miles and TOOOOO many repairs. I will never purchase another Audi.
I dont know how recent the latest comments are, but my 2000 S4 developed this problem at 105k miles....hoping for a solution
I do have the same problem, ABS module failure and the dealer wants me to pays 1100$, to fix
This problem should be fixed by audi by a recall.
I am from Canada , but has an Usa Audi 2002 3.0 Q, winth 76000 M
I have a 1999 A4. My ABS and brake lights began flashing a few weeks ago. I brought it to my mechanic who said that my ABS unit if working well and that the lights are flashing because my dashboard needs to be replaced. He (along with any other private mechanic) will not touch this. He also said that Audi would charge at least $1000 to fix the "problem" but he did not think it was necessary. For now I'm living with the flashing lights.
1999.5 A4 1.8T. Had the same problem which started as an intermittent ABS failure (I could hear the ABS randomly engage while driving -same noises as when starting the engine and hearing it power up/self test?). It started around 80k miles but went permanently out at around 95k. Been driving without ABS ever since. My turbo burned at 45k miles, but that's another story.
Have a 1999 VW Passat with 77K miles.......intermittent brake, abs, oil pressure and loss of tach happening after about 20 miles of driving, will go on and off randomly. Was told had a bad intrument cluster...had it remanufactured by BBA...plugged it in and after 20 miles of driving the same issues started happening...took it to the dealership and they want $1300 to replace the ABS control module.......when is VW going to do something about this????
Yes, another 1999 A6 is bitten by the flashing ABS light. I am afraid to call the dealer and hear the cost.
my 2001a4 1.8t same problem cant believe how many common faults this car has i suppose i shud of stuck to ford or vauxhall i no there crap but i could of bort a new on for the price of these common faults alone i am discusted with audi's replie and want be buyin another one i took it to audi and they new what the problem was straight away and told me it was a common fault so we are all gettin ripped off obviesly.we have all made a 'common fault'that will be that we all bought an 'AUDI'
I got my lights and beeps yesterday. 1999 a4 quattro. also cruise control and cat are shot. I havent even had this car a year and I have learned to hate it. its about to be winter in mn and abs is a necessity!!
I have a 2000 A4 Avant wagon with this problem. I bought it from www.LLTEK.com. It was one of their showcars. The ABS light fault has been haunting me for 3-4 years.
I recently had to make a panic stop and blew out a rear caliper.
After replacing the caliper, I cannot get brake fluid to flow through the ABS module/pump. I also took it to my local shop and they too couldn't get any fluid to make it to the driver rear caliper.
I will be sending my ABS module and pump 8E0614111A to
www.bba-reman.com
It is $139 for the pump and $139 for the module. I do not know which is bad, or if both are.
I can't wait for a recall that may not come as I CANNOT drive my car now.
My airbag light has also been on for years. I can reset the light the with VAG-COM software package I have purchased. It shows a high static fault. After resetting the fault the light stays out for weeks to months.
Love my Audi, hate these unrecalled problems!!!
Goodluck to everyone!
Bill Wisniewski
2006 A6 Avant Wagon. 101,000 miles. Same problem. My mechanic gave me a heads up as to what was wrong and it led me to do research, which led me to this blog. Amazing that it is so common and unaddressed by Audi. I'll support a class action suit if Audi doesn't take the high road. I just hope nobody get injured or worse if their brakes lock up. If I were Audi and reading this, that's what would be on my mind.
Same problem as everyone else. Just randomly my ABS light came on and stayed on and then my brake light started flashing. I have taken the car to several places to run a diagnostic on it. No one could even communicate with the car. I bought my 99 A6 quattro a couple of years ago and i can honestly say that I have put more money into fixing it than i purchased it for. It all started off with the timing belt going out on me at 110 thousand miles. I have rebuilt basically the whole car over the past couple of years. As soon as you get it out of the shop, something else goes wrong. It has been broken down more than it has been running. I love driving it but I cant afford to have it fixed what it seems, everyday. I would love to participate in any kind of movement to have anything on the car recalled or just hassel Audi USA about how terrible the reliability of their vehicles are. Any one can email me with suggestions or comments at mdoster@wvup.edu
The Audi abs unit sucks. I had it rebuilt by bb reman and it still didn't solve the problem with my abs light going on which called my instrument cluster to go out. My ford expidition is ten years older and has no problems with abs this is a 2001 audi TT they should fix that issue
I own a 01 A4 Quattro (little over 100k) and I just realized my ABS Module is going bad. After seeing how common of an issue this is. How is there not a recall? If I knew about this before I bought the car, I would be driving a Subaru or something. This is rediculous!
I have had the same problem. One day my ABS light just started blinking on my 99 A4 1.8t @ roughly 80k. I assumed this was just a sensor telling me to replace my pads. Wrong-o. I talked to a mechanic at my Audi dealership. They know me well from when my timing belt snapped at 57k. I raised hell and they knocked $2300 off of that $4600 bill. No such luck in this particular case. The mechanic asked me, "did your car get wet?". I said, "no, I drive around with this specialized umbrella for my car in the rain cause if it gets wet it will cost me $1000" Seriously??? I can't believe any car owner would have to be asked that question.
Two things I will suggest.
1. Don't waste your time talking to customer service. Those people are a bunch of trained parrots who just regurgitate verbatim lines to you off of their computer screen. Call the corporate headquarters and just start calling extensions and complain and annoy anybody with a phone. Call the big wigs.
2. Bitch loud and proud in front of prospective customers at the dealership. Especially in front of that guy test driving a new RS6. Worst that can happen is that they'll escort you off the premises. It saved me $2300.
I would appreciate any advice at getting a part repair or a new part for as cheap as possible. Email me at wals8170@hotmail.com
I am also willing to discuss differentials, $700, Airbag, $1100, Central control module, $500, Timing Belt repairs, $4500. These all seem to be toooooo common for Audi to not do anything.
Yet another - 1999 A4 Avant with 115K miles. Airbag/ ABS combo, lucky me. This after I saved ~$3000 in repairs by doing the timing belt/ water pump/ thermostat nosejob my self (still $800 in parts). Nothing is easy on this car. BTW, this post is dated September 2009...still no recall???
Same here! My 1999 VW PASSAT has the ABS light come on and stay on, the tachometer goes to zero, the oil light flashes in the center, three (LOUD) beeps sound, and the air conditioner stops kicking out cold air if I have it on when this occurs. The fan still works, but no cold air. Nothing came up on the diagnostic my mechanic ran. He quoted $1,500 to have the ABS module replaced, but wouldn't recommend it since he couldn't find anything wrong with the car. I've been putting up with it for about a year now.
yea i pretty much have the same problem on my 2000 a4 1.8t.... bummer didnt think it would be such an expensive fix. hope they recall it.
i have a 99 a4 quattro with 100+k on it the brake light flashs and the abs light stays on allk the time, the dealer said it was the abs control module, they want 1000.00 to fix i have been driving the car for 2yrs with lights on
Add me to the list! 99 a4 quatro with 67k miles. Thank god there is no Audi dealer in Amarillo or I might have been suckered into paying for a "proper" repair. As it is, I'll get the module rebuilt and avoid ever purchasing an audi again. -Joe
I have a 99 Vw Passat with 72,000mi v6 and have had this going on for some time now. Looks like I am going to spend more $ I don't have on faulty products that get crammed down our throat. I am amazed our "Great Gov." can focus on safety in all other ways to make $$$$. But when it comes to these things... our tax $ go to a F-ing WAR or into the pockets of Bankers. Car accidents kill CRAZY % more people then Terrorism but we hear every day about the Terror and it scares the crap out of us. Odds are: 1 in 228 for chance of dying in a car accident! Compared to 1 in 88,000 in a terrorist act!! Opposed to 55,928 for Death by Lightning!!! Wake up America! We wonder why our roads are not safe. Take control. Get off your Cell. Stand up to Private Corporation. And don't support/buy products that hurt humans or our natural eco system.
Audi arrogance when it comes to these issues is legendary. I would never buy another Audi product because of it. I just developed this problem with the ABS and will do everything possible to avoid the Audi dealership rip-off. Did anyone else have oil leaking problems with a 1998 2.8 V-6? I ended up suing Audi regarding my A-6. Multiple dealerships charged me up the you know what to misdiagnose what turned out to be faulty cam bearing seals that went out at about 20,000. Such horrible customer service and faulty engineering!!
Same,my 1996 A4 Quattro has had abs and parkbrake light permanently on for bout a year, every now and then you feel the abs come on by itself when slowing down at very low speed on normal surface under normal braking.
I love driving this car,but it has had so many electrical faults i won't buy another one! Replaced ignition switch,then the key reader in ignition would'nt let the car run apparently another common prob because the contacts get dirty,petrol guage jumps from full to empty and anywhere in between at random,etc etc...
And they wonder why their profit is down this year by 82%!
1998 Audi A4, ABS, oil, brake, no tach; intermittent at 110K miles. Gonna try to get ABS module rebuilt.
I own a 99 A4 quattro that has a the abs and brake light illuminated on the console. I never realized how widespread of a problem it was until i started looking for solutions online. I'm about to embark on the quest to fix it, but from these posts it doesn't look good, or very inexpensive. I love driving my A4, but if there is such a lack of customer support from Audi I'm apprehensive about buying another one. Ahh the joys of owning a German car!
Mon transporter T5 de 2006 avec le voyant ABS allumé, le compteur kilometrique est la jauge d'essence qui ne fontionne plus, au vag com:
01316 Appareil de commande de frein
18057 Entrainement bus de données message manquant provenant de l'apareil de commande ABS
01312 Bus de données entrainement
Pas de commnication possible avec le module ABS 7H0 907 379 P.
Je vais chez VW pour leur faire part du probleme...on vera je vous tien au courant...
11/2009
2001 passat gls
82000 miles
During a long road trip out of town, brake related icons started flashing intermittently, stopped for a week, then resumed flashing again. The dealer replaced the ABS Control Unit for $1100.
1998 Audi A6 Quattro 120,000 miles
I took my car to the dealer for a problem with starting and also my ABS alarm. I was told the ABS control module was bad and the part alone was $1000.00.
As for my hard starting it was just as I expected, vacuum lines and a bad temp sensor which was $75 in parts and $425 in labor for 3.3 hours. I've never fealt so ripped off. I will never buy foreign again!
I have a 1999 Audi A4. ABS Lights went off 4 years ago when the car had 73K miles. Have driven it for 23K+ more miles with the blinking light and have experienced no brake issues. Given the number of occurences, I agree Audi should recall and fix this problem for so many unsatisfied Audi owners that will likely not by Audi again as a result of this issue.
i have a 97 audi a4 1.8t my abs brake module is broken again it had already been replaced at 62k. The new one failed at 90k i really hope they recall this item. I cant stand the abs and brake light being on!
Hi
I have the same problem with my car, i was the driving down a hill in freezin cold tempetures, i had my family in my car and my two rear wheels locked up and my car slided off the road..I want to know who i can get in contact with about the brakes on my 01audi a4 tdi for i think its in breach of safety regulations and i think the manufactures should fix this problem immediately before i take this any further..i will go to local broadcasters,tv and local newspapers..to get my point across thanks.brakes should not lock up when they want...bobbyphelan1@hotmail.com
Add me to the list. 99 A6 Quattro. 3 annoying beeps and flashing lights. The ABS unit costs more than the car is even worth!
Used http://myworld.ebay.com/ate1234 to repair the ABS module on my A4 quattro 1.8T. Repaired and returned within a week. I reinstalled and everything is great. All for $65 plus 2 hours of my time. I'll continue avoiding the Audi dealers as much as possible.
A6, 2002, 136,000 miles same story. ABS light on. Mecahnic told the ABS Controller was bad. Brought it to Carlsen Audi, who charged $150.00 to tell me what I had already told them, namely that the ABS controller needed to be replaced (they replaced 3 recently for other customers), but the part was not in stock.
Rector Motors in Burlingame CA (aka Rectal Motors) really pissed me off with their "We need to check it out ourselves" after I had already explained it was the ABS unit that was lighting up the Audi drivers throughout the Internet. They too charged me an arm and a leg just to tell me what I had told them, BUT they never told me there was a fee. I was pissed and have never gone back to them.
I was just in the market for another car. I love the Audi cars, styling, handling, everything, but I HATE THE COMPANY. The way they have abused their customers by not dealing in a forthright way about this clearly defective part is why I WILL NEVER BUY AN AUDI AGAIN. Even still, I call on Audi to man-up and issue a recall for those other customers still driving Audis.
I would love to approach news organizations and explain how Audi is throwing its customers under the bus with a defective braking system. How is that different from Toyota? Toyota did the honorable thing and went public with the problem and issued a recall. The silence from Audi is really disturbing. We have over 100 people commenting on the defective Audi ABS unit on this blog alone, there are probably 100-times or even 1,000-times more people who have the same problem but have just dealt with it and never posted here. That shoudl give you some scope on the size of the problem.
thought about buying a 2001 s4. abs light was on and salesmen didnt really think it was big deal. glad i did some research. dont know if ill buy it now unless i get heck of a deal. the car has 71,000 on it. everybody nthat posts here should call audi every day and demand a recall. contact your elected representatives in washington and let them know. it helped when toyota owners did. treat customers this way and keep building subpar autos and audi is gonna end up like pontiac and saturn. extinct!!!
2001 Passat fully loaded, just started having this problem a couple weeks ago. It comes and goes at random. The warning screams STOP!. It has 60,000 miles (100,000kms) on it.
Hi, I have a 1999 vw passat with brake light flashing and abs light stays on too. I have around 85,000 miles. Could it be the control module. My dealer says there is no recall on this?
Thanks!!!!
2000 A6 Tavant Wagon, 108,000 miles.
As others have pointed out on this string, there are at least a couple of outfits easily accessed via eBay that rebuild these modules. I used ABS Reman and I think it cost ~$139 with free shipping. Service was fast. The part is not hard to remove and detailed instructions are available on the ABSReman website. Warning/brake light is off and no further problems (with this issue) - however, it seems like the car has decided to fall apart component by component over the last 10,000 miles.
2001 A4 1.8T 116k ABS mod/pump quit, cannot pass inspection until fixed - sets off too many rediness codes.
2000 Audi A4 has solid ABS and blinking brake lights. I thought it was due to brake pad but they've been replaced and lights are still on. I Guess I'm going to have to rebuild my ABS module.
My 1999 Audi A6 Avant now has the flashing ABS light and brake light intermittently on at 98k miles. I had all the ABS sensors checked/ cleaned and they were fine. Audi must recall this ABS control module problem as it similar to the Toyota
Prius faulty braking system that leaves drivers and their families at risk of serious injury or death due to brake system malfunction. Audi should remember the sudden acceleration issue of the 1980's and what that did to their reputation.
Just emailed Ms. Annette Johnson at Audi today -- I quickly (within 2 hours) received a call from Audi Customer Care. I told them that I had the ABS issue, and want to report it so that it can be properly looked at for a possible recall (I have a 1999 A6 Quattro with 137K miles on it). They said that they were not aware of any recalls in the works.
If you have a problem, please call Audi customer care (800-822-2834) or email them audicare@audi.com so that they can do something about this.
My tranny went out at 55K miles, and Audi did not stand behind it (I paid to replace it at AAMCO for $7K), so I'm not overly optimistic about Audi's desire to help out.
To whom it may concern:
I am sending this e-mail to notify you of my recent problem with my Audi 1999.5 A4 2.8 Quattro that i own. About a month ago, an Abs/Brake light turned on in my dashboard. I took my car to an Audi/VW certified mechanic, and found out that my issue is the ABS Module that went bad in my car and that the problem will cost me anywhere from $700.00-$1000.00 to repair.
When i got the news, i was quite shocked, concerned and worried for my safety and ofcourse i have no idea how i'm gonna come up with that amount of money to fix such a thing. To top it off, i get online, and find out that there are 1000's and 1000's of concerned and disappointed Audi & VW owners who have the same exact problem with VW Jettas and 1996-2001 Audis, wich is the result of bad quality parts. The thing that disappoints me the most, is that Audi doesn't want to do anything or any recall about this issue.
This is not a matter of luxury, it's a matter of SAFETY. It's only fair for you to take action in this problem. I ask you to please take my case, and the case of 1000's of disappointed Audi owners out there. And please do something about this. The reason I bought my Audi was because I had high standards for German made cars, I thought they were the best, toughest, longer lasting cars ever with the best high quality parts.
Please don't disappoint me. Please don't ruin your reputation and take action. Let's continue making Audi the Big successful Car manufacturer that we want it to be.
I look forward to hearing back from you soon with a solution. My name is Robert and you can reach me at: 801-793-3480 Here is the website to the blogspot with all the concerns and complains from Audi/VW owners. audi-vw-abs-recall.blogspot.com
Please read them carefully and do something about it.
Thanks for your time and understanding.
I have the same problem with my 99 Audi A4 2.8. I been having the problem for over a month now. I thought it was a sensor, but when scan with an ODB II no faulty codes are founded.
I just posted a complaint at www.safercar.gov. Please do the same, maybe it will lead to a recall just like Audi had with the moonroof water leak issue.
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/Complaint.cfm
I have a 2000 A6 4.2 and the same ABS unit has failed. I took it to my mechanic who said that he can get it manufactured for $500 the new one at dealer cost is $750.
i have a 99.5 a4 1.8 and had this part break twice , 3time i just left it way with flashing light, not worth all that money and aggrevation.
juttin3@aol.com
Now i feel stupid after selling my 1998 mercedes c class to buy a6 1998. I have the abs and airbag lights on my mechanic said it will cost $300 thats not the issue . I miss my merceds . Merceds is like the big daddy audi is like a Damn piece of junk . I will fix the abs sell the car and going back to the right track "mercedes"
I started getting the abs lights 2 weeks ago but didnt know what it was. About a week ago I got in a serious car accident causing a broken left femur, broken pelvis, 2 broken ribs, and 4 bones throughout my face. I was driving a 2000 audi s4 with a little bit over 100k miles on it.
the good news is that I no longer need to worry about the piece of garbage that almost took my life since it appears as though the car suffered more damages than I did.
Kurt, I hope you're not hurtin too much. Was your accident in any way caused by, or exacerbated by a failure of the anti-lock brake system? I'm not an attorney, nor will I refer you to one, I'm just curious whether a case might escalate Audi's awareness of this failure on their part to recall a faulty system. Good luck on your recovery.
I also emailed Annette Johnson at Audi my complaint. Audi Customer Care called and I reported a problem with my 1999 A4 2.8 quatro (on and off ABS light and brake). The answer was : no recall!
99 a4..same problem car runs fine but looks hideous with this abs/brake light on...also havent had to slam on the brakes so i dont actually know if the abs works with this light flashing.
99 passat 1.8t wagon
dash is like a christmas tree.
all the lights are going for the past 4 years.
car drives fine though without abs ofcourse.
vw needs to recall...
I have a 2000 Audi A6 2.7T and my dash also looks like a christmas tree with the abs and break lights flashing and beeping at me all the time... I think this is an issue and with the cost of these cars Audi can afford to do a recall and keep some customers
I have the same problem with my Audi a6 99 abs brake light and the oil lamp bibs 3 times is driving me crazy
Another one here owner of an A6 TQ 2000 model, two weeks ago the brake and ans leds gone mad and now i am asked to pay 1200Euros to replace the abs module.Dont know what to do because i am concerned about security issues.Any help appreciated...
Thanks for sharing...Circuit boards shouldn't be faulty like this, it was a faulty design that should be covered by the warranty but apparently it is covered on the lower-end VWs and not the Audi. For more details visit Audi service...
my 1999 A6 Avanti wagon. Lights one same story. My car service station says that this is very common. he wants $450, looked on line and a rebuild is as low as $65.00 plus shipping. about 4 sites with different range of pricing. One UK site has how to install. seems fairly simple if you have the right equipment.... might have my guy take out, send out to be rebuilt and then re-install!! has anyone installed there own? maybe I can do it.
99 A6 avanti wagon, same problem. Garage said it should be @$400 or so. found a few websites that will rebuild just the modulemaster for $65.00 and up.. found a few sites that show a step by step removal. has anyone removed the Modulemaster? and were they successful?
Audi 199 A4 The module repair is fairly straightforward. I had mine rebuilt by Auto and Truck Electronics for $65
http://www.autoecu.com/
They provide detailed instructions. Other sites also describe the process and detail the repair to the module itself. It took about an hour to get the module out, less than a week total to ship it out and get it back fixed, and an hour to reinstall.
2001 audi a4 avant v6 2.8 quattro(wagon)
ABS light is on but brakes are functioning properly i assume. i am trying to sell and the buyer will not purchase the vehicle without a resolution to the problem on my end. Any suggestions?
By the way, i think the situation is a little different on the recall, i believe Audi does not want to recall the part because they do NOT want to afford the recall, not that the consumer is assumed to be capable of affording the repair
Just happened on my 2005 Audi a6. Piece of crap car. Gone to he'll after 50k.
1-30-11
I have a 2001 A6 wagon and have become desensitized to any flashing lights on any car's dashboard after driving for 4 months with my ABS problem.
My main question is since the car currently drives as intended, as a car without ABS, do you think I will/should pass Pennsylvania inspection??
I am not sure they will buy my story when the car starts with the piercing *beep* and blinks while they pull it into the garage bay...
Anyway, thanks for reading and watch out for the ice.
I have no idea whether it will pass inspection. You might call anonymously and ask. That may also vary from state to state. Be careful on the ice w/o ABS.
I have a 1998 Audi A4 Quattro the abs light went out at 120,000 miles costing 1100.
Wow! I thought I was the only unfortunate Audi owner with ABS blinking lights and bells ringing. As I prefer no ABS, it was sort of a good thing when the ABS went out. Audi has cross-braking, so maintaining steering direction w/o ABS is really not an issue. Panic stops might be another story, ABS won't let you lock up your wheels, still, my experience in difficult conditions is that non ABS braking is as good or better than with ABS.My dealer quoted the big bucks brakes controller replacement, and I declined, because it should be a recall item. SHAME,SHAME on Audi! I found a rebuild company that, get this..., rebuilt the control module for 65.00 plus 12.00 shipping. I am waiting for the return of the controller to install and see the results. Incidentally, removing the controller is a snap, except the last of 6 bolts is nearly impossible to get to. It was suggested to remove the inner fender panel, and windshield washer bottle,but I just opened a small enough hole in the panel to reach the screw with a screwdriver. Nothing to it! put a little silicon over the 1/4" hole when you're done. My car is a 1995 Audi quattro A6 with 75,000 miles on it. Love those quattro Audi's but am disappointed in the Company. Again, Shame on Audi, this should definitely be a recall.
Hi All:
I have a 1999 Audi A4 with approx 120K miles on it. The ABS/Brake light issue began about 5K miles ago and I have just been ignoring the issue. Well here is my problem my car needs smogged in California and will not pass the test without haveing a clear check engine light. So here are my questions to everyone.
1 Does this issue tripe the check engine light or just the ABS/Brake lights
2 If this does tripe the CEL then what would everyone recommend as the most cost effective way to get rid of this issue.
3 I am slightly mechanically inclined and could likely remove the ABS control unit if that is necessary and I have good instructions .....does anyone have links to instructions on this?
Thanks in advance
Another unhappy camper. 2001 Passat, ABS module issue as well. I called VW and when i asked them why there weren't any recalls, they told me despite the number of complaints posted on the internet, not enough complaints have been called into the dealer. I was surprised to hear this. So for those who may not have call the dealer but only posted on internet sites, I urge you to call the dealer, that is where we need to record our complaints.
Todays date is 2/28/2011. I have a 1999 Audi A4 B5, 2.8 V6 manual transmission with about 95,000 miles. Starting in December 2010 I began to experience this problem intermittently. But gradually the problem occurred more and more. My local repair shop is very familiar with this problem; for about $650 they will put in a rebuilt ABS control module.
It is soon going to be summer so I am not worried about the lack of ABS. I wish I could turn off the darned alarm. I bought VAG Com unit. It reads most of the systems fine. However, it cannot read the ABS system or the AWD.
If VW/Audi won't do a recall, maybe a class action lawsuit will motivate them.
Todays date is 2/28/2011. I have a 1999 Audi A4 B5, 2.8 V6 manual transmission with about 95,000 miles. Starting in December 2010 I began to experience this problem intermittently. But gradually the problem occurred more and more. My local repair shop is very familiar with this problem; for about $650 they will put in a rebuilt ABS control module.
It is soon going to be summer so I am not worried about the lack of ABS. I wish I could turn off the darned alarm. I bought VAG Com unit. It reads most of the systems fine. However, it cannot read the ABS system or the AWD.
If VW/Audi won't do a recall, maybe a class action lawsuit will motivate them.
I am the owner of a 99 A4 Quattro and I am having the same problem. ABS light solid and Flashing Brake light. I also fall for the dealer bull and end up paying a service fee to figure out what I already know. These car manufactures have no heart and I think we need to start a Class Action Lawsuit to have them recall these cars and cover any fees we had to pay to find out what we already know. They should also pay us for all the headaches we have from dealing with them about this. GOD FORBIDS THIS FROM HAPPENING BUT IT SEEM LIKE ITS GONNA TAKE SOMEONE LOOSING THERE LIFE FROM THE STUPID THING FAILING FOR THEN TO DO SOMETHING. My GOD cant they see that we are their customers and we love our cars. They don't know how good they have it now until they get hit with the MULTI BILLION DOLLAR LAW SUIT.
2000 Audi A6 2.8 Quattro. ABS Brake light came on 2 weeks ago. Apparently I will need a new module which will run me >$1200. I love my vehicle however this leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Please contact me if there is any recall or class action development with regard to these faulty parts. Thank you.
mticha@hotmail.com
Today is March 29, 2011. My 2001 Audi A6 got the same ABS problem a few days ago.
If there is any news or any action you guys want to take, please inform me:
rb520520@gmail.com
My name Alex Chybisov.
I have same problem.
I was i garage and they scaned ABS system.
Resalt- need to chaneged ABS relaes on the vales.
same problem here abs light and flashing brake light. i sure wish audi fixes this issue
More of the same issue I've read over and over on this blog.
1998 Audi A4 Quattro with 2.8 liter V6. ABS light is on continuously and brake light flashing immediately after starting the engine.
Might as well rubber stamp the complaint. I have the same issue on my 2001 A4 Quattro 2.8. The car has 80K and I am the original owner.
I think you should include the dates on these posts - today is 5-6-2011. It would be helpful. Also a view count to the page. Maybe Audi will take notice if you have millions of hits and comments? When I bought my A4 my friend also bought one that is one year later - he too is experiencing similar problems. Both Catalytic converts died on me as well. I have a great mechanic whose first child's college is paid by my service fees. Too bad Audi's upper management is horrible!
My 2001 a4 2.8 quarrel audi has the same issue. Message sent to audi care.
I too have the same issue now on my 2001 A4 Quattro 2.8. The car has 82K on it. Ive sent am email to audi care.
5/13/2011
I have a 2001 Audi A6 Quattro 2.7T. 113,000 miles in generally good shape. Since I bought the car from private party ABS and Brake light and Traction Control, (little triangle in a circle), have been on. Brake light blinks and beeps occasionally. Took it to AAMCO. They said $250 just to diagnose the problem. I have read on many Audi forums this is very common and not the fault of the owner. Now from anyone's experience, is there anything that can be done where I am not stuck with a $1,700 repair bill? I am 21 years old just starting a family, so that ridiculous price is out of the question.
Ben, I feel for you. Read through the comments, there are rebuilt options and chip-only options that can help you. The $250 will be wasted. If the light comes on a beeps (I think at startup...it has been a while since i sold my A4) then it's the ABS controller and it needs repair. I tried to get mine covered by warranty, the Audi dealer insisted on a $250 diagnosis. I said I know what it is, it's the ABS controller, is it covered by warranty. They refused to comment until they did their paid diagnosis, then they informed me it was the ABS controller and it wasn't covered...needless to say, I was pissed!
Add another to the list - 2001 A4 Quattro, 54k miles. Mechanic wants $1200 plus labor to fix it, I told him to leave it. Is it safe to drive? It's a 5-speed, and I only drive back and forth to work (about 4 miles per day).
Thanks for your post, this is very informative. I can't believe Audi hasn't done anything by now.
I own a 1998 A4 Avant- the ABS control module has never worked properly since I purchased the car three years back. Now, on top of this, the display on the dash blinks on and off and beeps until it decides to stay ON, which doesn't always happen. Have any recalls been made on any of these? I can't imagine they are related but the ABS module is an issue, I would think. The car is otherwise stellar- I'm incredibly loyal to Audi, having been in an awful accident with my first Audi, a 1994 S4, and walked away with no more than a bruise. I can't imagine owning anything else but the lack of response to this common and obvious problem is a little disconcerting.
It seems that it not only happening in earlier models of Audi's. I have a 2003 Audi A6 Quattro and the ABS system keeps coming on warning me that I dont have any brake lights. Have had the Switch replaced but after driving for about a month, the same problem has happened again.Took to Audi dealer,would cost anywhere from 600 to 800 dollars just to get repaired right. Definitely needs to be a recall on all cars of audi's and ABS system wiring.
My 1999 A6 Quattro started having the blinking ABS light and solid brake light a month ago. I tested the ABS in the rain recently and confirmed the ABS system is not working as the wheels locked up.
I had the brake system checked yesterday and it is all fine. It must be the bad module as others have had. I may go with the aftermarket repair.
Add another unfortunate one. I have a 1999 A4 Quattro. Only 40k miles. I love the car and have taken great care of it. This is really distressing. Took it to an Audi authorized dealer. I don't think they were even aware of this issue. AUDI should provide some compensation!!
I HAVE THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM. I HAVE AN AUDI A4 1998 2.8L AND BOTH THE ABS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE ON. I WAS TOLD IT ISNT WORTH THE MONEY TO FIX IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
YESTERDAY MY CAR BEGAN TO BEEP EVERYTIME THAT I PRESS THE BRAKE WHICH IS CONCERNING ME AND NOW IM NOT SURE IF THOSE TWO THINGS ARE AT ALL CONNECTED.
My 1998 Audi A6 2,4 quattro have the same problem. ABS light + red warning light in the dashboard. Comes and goes...
This car is in Norway, Haugesund
Regards Ronny
I have the same ABS/Brake light problem with my 1999 A6 Avant Wagon. However the warning lights go on when I start the car. It only beeps once and the lights stay on for the durantion of my use. I have been advised by my local mechanic that once the brake liners and rotors are in good shape it would not be necessary to repair/replace the ABS monitor. My son advised me to get rid of the vehicle but I reall enjoy driving it. My viewpoint is that these modern vehicles have too many monitors that go bad and create an unnecessary expense. Perhaps we should all buy American.
I doubt Audi will step up to the plate to remedy this particular problem. To them it is a bottom line issue. Good luck to all of you seeking Audi's recall.
My wonderful '98 Audi A6 has joined the club. It has 144,000 mi and I'm not about to spend another $1500 on it. Is this a potentially deadly problem?
I bought an expensive German car and now it's expensive to fix. Why do my actions have consequenses?
Hello everyone
I have been reading all the comments pertaining to the ABS and red light flashing syndrome,is definatly a commen problem with the unit as is posted by all owners of Audis!.
I am a mechainic,this is the first time i have come across this problem.
First i have to ask what part of the abs system is faulty,is it the electronic module attached to the abs valve body or the valve body that is faulty,or both?
From experience and what i have read it seems that the light been activated is usualy after pads and discs have been replaced, i suggest that when compressing the piston back into the caliper,that the seals in the valve body are sometime inverted,which changes the line pressure and this is what activates the light,this happens on most abs unites on all cars,when compressing the piston the bleed nipple is meant to be opened so fluid does not back pressure the valve body unit,also by doing this the piston returns easier?.The sensors on the wheels are actually very robust, have to be simply because of the position they are mounted, are hit with all sorts of debris etc etc.
One comment i read is the comment made that recall and warrenty were null and void because the abs system is an aid not a safety issue,blows my mind that,abs is fitted to all cars today as a means of reducing the road toll ie gives control of the car to the driver,that to me is safety not an aid.
The last thing i would like to mention is the costs involved not just with the parts but the insalation.the parts are mass produced and that usualy means inexpensive to the producer,begs the question just who is making all the money,my ex father inlaw was a car dealer and i have seen how these wankers live,at our expense i tell you,like all technolagy today we pay through the nose,especially with cars,but this issue is a real concern,my holden has the same basic abs system BOSCH !I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT,I PAID A FRACTION OF THE PRICE compared to Audi or VW if holden had these issues they would do something about it,belies me why VW had a recall and not audi,when the same system is used in both cars.
I agree that the Audi is a beautiful car to own and drive,but as several people have said on this issue they will never buy one again,realisticly this is the only way to be heard and make a stand againt the wheels of commerce,so long as the money is taken on sale of a car from factory and dealers,thats all they care about,dont know how many times i have heard of and i quote 'cant find the problem miss/sir',car now out of warranty all of a sudden yes we have found the problem this is what it will cost you un quote'.
Cheers Mr Magoo
My understanding is that the failure is in the control module, a circuit board/firmware issue. In other words it is not a mechanical item that suffers from wear. As such it sounds to me like a faulty design/manufacture, not something that should wear out.
I gave 99 audi a6 quattro same issue blinking break light and ABS light on ad beeping. My brakes this morning in the rear were actually smoking!!! Lights have been on for a few months we refuse to pay someone 175 to diagnose!
Hello all. Adrian here.
Not sure how old these comments are.
My post Tues 20/09/11 11:28
I bought yesterday, a stunning 97 Audi A4 2.6 v6 avant. Leather interior the works. I am really pleased with the car. Just been serviced, road tested etc etc. Sweet car do drive.
But, and it's a big BUT. You guessed it the ABS and break light is flashing. The dealer told me he had hooked it up to his £3000 machine and it came back telling him it was a faulty sensor. He Said I could get one for £30.I feel like I'm such a fool, but I was taken by the car and the price. Well we all learn sometimes, I just wish I had read up on it first.
This morning I took my car to show a friend, he said he used to work on Audis and that a common fault was misalignment of the ABS. I
Going to look into this because the sensor doesn't com on until the break is pressed. Now when I do press the break there is an intermittent scraping noise. Maybe I'm putting two and two together and coming up with five. But it's worth looking into surely. I hope it mechanical because that will be a cheap fix for me. If its the more sinister abs module, can I completely remove the module. Will that turn off the warning lights?
If not,'I fear I will have to get rid of the Audi and stay away from them in the future!
AUDI WE LOVE YOUR CARS, PLEASE RECALL FAULTY PARTS AND REPLACE.
Hello all. Adrian here.
Not sure how old these comments are.
My post Tues 20/09/11 11:28
I bought yesterday, a stunning 97 Audi A4 2.6 v6 avant. Leather interior the works. I am really pleased with the car. Just been serviced, road tested etc etc. Sweet car do drive.
But, and it's a big BUT. You guessed it the ABS and break light is flashing. The dealer told me he had hooked it up to his £3000 machine and it came back telling him it was a faulty sensor. He Said I could get one for £30.I feel like I'm such a fool, but I was taken by the car and the price. Well we all learn sometimes, I just wish I had read up on it first.
This morning I took my car to show a friend, he said he used to work on Audis and that a common fault was misalignment of the ABS. I
Going to look into this because the sensor doesn't com on until the break is pressed. Now when I do press the break there is an intermittent scraping noise. Maybe I'm putting two and two together and coming up with five. But it's worth looking into surely. I hope it mechanical because that will be a cheap fix for me. If its the more sinister abs module, can I completely remove the module. Will that turn off the warning lights?
If not,'I fear I will have to get rid of the Audi and stay away from them in the future!
AUDI WE LOVE YOUR CARS, PLEASE RECALL FAULTY PARTS AND REPLACE.
9.20pm
Hello again
I now have a new fault. The rpm's are fluctuating between 800 - 1500. Oh dear now I know I'm a fool. Called garage they said to call back tomorrow.???
Anyhow I know this is not ABS related, but I thought I would just let you all know that after doing a whole day researching Audi a4 V6 Avant B5 platform, and indeed some later models. STAY AWAY. They will leave a huge hole in your bank balance. Even if a second hand one is cheap so it seems trust me, STAY AWAY.
So all in all
Give Audi a very wide birth. The cars come with many faults and a really really bad after service.
(I had a b6 a4 avant - you think I would have learnt from that. £97 part £1100 labour)
one more. 2001 a4 with 70k miles. very annoying.
'98 Audi a4 2.8 100K+
ABS light, brake light, beeping, and most recent–airbag light.
Feel free to send any helpful info or recall status to: boetes@comcast.net
Thanks and good luck all!
I have an Audi A4 99 and having the ABS and the brake light on.
I would like to know if this issue was recall and there was a fix for this or anything else can be done.
My 1998 A6 same problem ABS Light On
Flashing Brake Light ON
I wish they would recall and replace the unit or I have to junk my car because of too high cost of repair
Add another to the list...1998 A4 2.4 Quattro; 85,000 miles on it.
1998 Audi A4 B5. ABS problem. Just another drop in the ocean of complaints.
2000 VW Passat, Soild Yellow ABS lit and blinking brake light, another one to the list....
Have you people never heard of extended warranty's ? I have owned 3 A4's and 3 Passats and have had a ABS Module replaced on 1, under warranty. Only cost my copay which was 50 bucks. I have worked for a Audi dealer for almost 9 years and I can tell you our business is booming and we are not going anywere. I word to the wise, Audi has more money then you and better lawyers.
1998 A4 B5 Quattro 144k miles, same ABS light and flashing brake light problem. Love the car, but hate the repair costs.
11/17/11
Read through the comments; obviously a ton of the same issues. Got a 2000 A6 Quattro 4.2, from a private party. The ABS, Airbag (and sometimes the EPC light) have all been on for a few months now.
However, my car is now iffy to drive. In the colder weather it barely starts, with a lot of sputtering. Once in drive and moving, it won't shift properly, causing short spurts of acceleration or de-acecleration. Warming the engine up first only sometimes helps. Local mechanic who deals with German cars confirms the ABS module needs repaired and appears to the the main problem...so far. An estimate of $910.00+labor makes me want to try something else, otherwise I won't even afford gas to drive the darn thing!
Looking at the other options posted here, including searching for a petition to sign for Audi!
We bought our 2001 TT Roadster new. Yep - the airbag light has now been on for a couple of years. We simply shudder at having to spend $ 600+ for the part alone.
I have to say this: With so many things having gone wrong with this car, we will NEVER EVER buy Audi again, and we will NEVER EVER recommend Audi to anyone (I started a joke: "Audi" is an acronym, "A Uniquely Dumb Idea".) I think this air bag issue is indeed a SAFETY issue, and should be addressed through a recall.
Nov 21,2011. 1999 Audi A6 Quattro Avant.110,000miles.ABS light/flashing brake light/three warning beeps. darling741@yahoo.com
same problem here 2000 audi s4 will be the last audi i ever own. they should recall this.
99 A4 Q2.8 owner. Had it since new, now 115000km. ABS problem cropped up a few weeks ago. Exactly what others have described - beeping, flashing ABS light and solid brake light, then goes out. Sometimes it repeats itself and goes out again. My past experience with Capilano Audi (my dealer) and Audi Canada tells me not to expect much. Had other problems shortly after warranty and was told tough. Have never gone back to an Audi dealer since. Great car to drive but a nightmare for repairs and maintainence. Will not be buying Audi again.
Bought 99 A4 2.8 Quatro new.FOR 5 YEARS I HAVE HAD BLACK TAPE COVERING THE ABS,BRAKE AND AIR BAG LIGHTS. I still have the vehicle, but won't buy another Audi! Purchased a BMW recently.
I own a 2000 A6 2.7T Quattro and am experiencing the same issue with Solid ABS light on and Flashing break light. It has 107K miles.
I too have a 2000 Audi s4 and the abs and brake light came on the dealership tried to charge me 1645 I told them to shove it up the A because a new and module is tops 650 and to install takes only 30 minutes I just went to the stealership to see if they would try to rip me off and a matter of fact they did.
My 1999 A6 2.8 has similar ABS control module failure.
Bill in Atlanta
I have a 1998 Audi A4 Quattro with 100k and I also have the ABS light and now airbag light as well. I am calling customer care today to check if there has been a change.
Just got off the phone with Audi USA customer service... nothing has changed. Surprise, surprise...
Same problem, Audi Quattro A6 1999, ABS light on and brake light blinking. The worst thing is, in VA you must have inspection done, and I get recalled for inspection and my car must be fixed before they can pass my audi for driving, which doesn't have nothing to do with actual brakes. Now I can't drive it and I need the car for work. It is going to be "AUDI" replaced with some chipper car, just because AUDI USA doesn't want to help this people. So, hopefully, it is going to start lose popularity definitely, which is not good for PROUD audi owners. Looks like, to the rest of my life, I am going to stick with more reliable cars, not a German cars anymore, specially Audi. I am from Bosnia and now living in USA and always wanted to have good and reliable car (audi?), but that is going to happen in another life, really. Replacing a audi for Honda or Nissan or Toyota, that is in my mind right now...Good luck audi owners!!! Sefik
Audi A4 quattro 1999 80.000 miles same thing, ABS light blinking and brake light on always. Can't pass inspection!! What to do?? Repair too expensive, no help from Audi USA! Did somebody have to die or have some serious accidents, for Audi USA to pay attention? They must reccal this ABS problem, if they want to keep happy customers!!
Just left a message to Annette.Johnson@audi.com, her direct phone line is 248-754-3529, to let you know people, where to call! They don't have "enough" complains for this problem , so they are not doing nothing about it...
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